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- Mounting Locations |
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from Fletch: Dale Van Blocland has a lot of detailed information on how
to mount the body to the chassis, you should visit Dale's site Mounting
Body section to gather more information
on his methods. I am just touching on a few of Dale's methods. |
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is a detailed "manual" that Dale has created for you to view
(in regards to this section). This instruction manual is on how he built
his IFG Phantom Roadster. (click on his logo to visit
his web site)

Click
here to visit Dale's section on: Chapter
9 - Body Mounting |
| Dale
Van Blokland
I took the big plunge and permanently mounted the
body.
I started by running a string from the center line
at the back to the centerling at the front. I then made sure the string
lined up with the marks on the body. I then checked the body in several
places to make sure it was level as was the body. |
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| I glassed in the sections that I
had cut off to mount the body.
This was accomplished by bracing them in place,
cutting matte and then applying resin. I will finish off the bottom side
with Bondo. |
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| I wanted to put a skid plate under the
front lip. I used a piece of foam to mark the outline of the front lip.
I cut and welded a piece of 3/16" x 5" plate to match the contour.
I then welded it place to the piece of tube that I had already bonded into
the front nose. I then fabed a bracket to support the lip and tie into the
radiator bracket. I then added a piece that spanned the entire brace from
skid plate to original frame. This provided me the rigidity that I needed.
I can now jack up my car from the front bumper. I will grind the edges and
finish it so it will look like one piece. I also tied in the sides so the
fender wells are now solid. |
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| Craig
Nadeau Forward Body mounting
Two things here, in the fore view, a .5x.5 from
the frame to the corner of the wheel opening. Second, under the turn signal,
a rounded 1x1 welded to the frame and glued to the body. |
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| Body Mounting
Here are a couple of locations that I supported
the body. I used .5 x .5 and a urethane adhesive. I put some solid pressure
on it afterwards and it is really strong.
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Dale
"Doc" Smith
I made my share of mistakes and do-overs so I wanted to pass on a method
of approach that finally made everything work out when it came to aligning
and installing the D&R roadster on the frame with everything aligned.
(Thank you Robert, who pointed me in this direction)
For the doors, top, and front, and rear portions of the body to all be
in alignment you need to put the body on the frame with the basic rudiments
of support and than

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Align the front of the roof with the windshield top

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Position the top so it's even with the door strip

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Make sure the rear of the top is exactly equal with the body

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Make sure the top is equidistant on both sides

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I had to raise the windshield surround 1/4 inch to make everything
line up right

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Finally install a cross brace, I used 1/2 conduit with the X part bolted
also, and now you can move the body anyway necessary to achieve correct
alignment of the body on the frame so that the wheel wells and body are
equal side to side with out concern for the top and doors lining up.

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Tim
Watson
Just got done bonding my body down. After talking with the tech's at
3M I decided to use a product I have used on my boats. 3M
5200, is noted for being very very strong. The tech told me it is
similar to the window weld but stronger! I went with the fast dry, it
sets in 1 hour, slow dry sets in two days. You must work fast with the
fast dry. You can find it a Lowes hardware or a marine store. I used 1
1/2 tubes.

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Endre Bujtas
New Member posted 29 June 2002 03:37 PM
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Just today, as a matter of fact, I welded
the body onto the chassis. The car is quite solid. Weld points at the
rear trunk area, at the support near the rear window to the firewall,
the A-pillar, the door hinge support and the front bumper subframe.
Now for the topic at hand; for those with IFG bodies
keep in mind that you may have to do some fancy cutting and welding in
order to get the bottom of the windshield flush with the body.
I've had my body for 4 years now, hanging on my
gantry. The years had caused the body to bow-out, which resulted in a
gap of about 1/4 - 3/8 between the center of the windshield and the body.
And my windshield wiper rotor support plate didn't help much either. I
installed and welded the plate onto the body tube while the body was suspended.
To alleviate the problem I made 3 cuts into the
stiffener tube that is bonded to the body at the windshield area. After
aligning the body, and prior to welding, I jacked the tube up with the
windshield in place. This was done using a 3/4 square steel tube acting
as a lever and my old Fiero jack. I cranked the jack up until the body
mated with the bottom of the windshield. Then I removed the windshield
and welded the A pillar support. Then the cuts I made to the support tube.
Now I have a perfect fit.
Just keep this in mind when you are ready to PERMANENTLY
mount the body. |
| Derek Greving - I've seen enough to know that
the correct wheelbase for the Diablo is 104.3"...is the correct width
80.3 (to the outside of the frame or to the outside of the car)?
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Endre (Andy) Bujtas - The 80.3 inch width you mentioned
is a MAXIMUM body width value - excluding the mirrors. It occurs some
point over the rear wheel wells since the body is quite curved - as looking
from the top down to the body. I measured my body some 3 years ago and
it was this width value. The car/body is quite wide. My car barely fits
into a closed car transport trailer.
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Derek Greving - I appreciate your responses. The
question was the result of a conversation I had with Ken Essler (of NAERC)
who said that, upon telling him I was interested in an SCE tube chassis
installed under one of his kits, that it was not ideal for his kits, because
they (his kits) are the correct width of the Diablo (and Shelby puts all
IFG bodies on his chassis' - which are supposedly wider)...any comments
regarding this info?
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Endre (Andy) Bujtas - I believe he may be right.
The IFG body (which I have) may be about an inch wider, but who's to say
that the NAERC body is smaller? Anyway, it really doesn't matter. Apparently,
Ken Essler does not know much about the SCE chassis - which is a version
of the original IFG tube chassis like I have. If the SCE chassis follows
generally close to the original IFG version, there should be no problem
mounting any fiberglass Diablo replica body onto it - except, of course,
if the body was not made with the correct wheelbase, etc.
The IFG/SCE tube chassis is not as wide as the body - it does not extend
out to the body perimeter, but somewhere in between. Therefore, it doesn't
matter what Diablo body is placed on it. However, it may require welding
(or possibly cutting/relocating) the body mounting points for a different
body manufacturer. IFG bodies are surrounded by a 1x1 square tube steel
frame molded into the fiberglass. You clean off some of the fiberglass
and weld the steel in the body to the tube chassis to form a rigid structure.
Therefore, to utilize an SCE/IFG tube chassis on a body such as CRP/D&R/NAERC
may require adding special mounting hardware - either onto the body or
the chassis - in order to permanently mount the body to the chassis.
The only other possible caveat might be the location of the rear firewall
relative to the kit's rear window panel - or where the rear window section
rests onto the chassis. I know that the IFG tube chassis, which uses the
Fiero seating section, modifies the Fiero rear firewall by bending it
inward a bit in order that their rear window rests onto the original Fiero
rear window sill. But it wouldn't be terminal if the body did not exactly
rest onto the sill at this location. It simply would mean cutting, bending
and re-welding a section of the firewall to fit.
Finally, regarding the width, for me wider is better! No one would ever
know the difference. A wider stance would only make the car look more
aggressive.
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