| Notes
- Tips and Tricks
- some great advice from other builders |
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My hints (to start with) would
be - By Endre
(Andy) Bujtas
Build Philosophy: Tortoise vs Hare
Plan small tasks to be performed every day. I do this using a Postit 4x6
sticky notepad. I write down (on each line) bulleted items to work on
for the day. This helps in considering small details as well as the big
jobs. If there is a big job to do that day, I'll break it down into smaller
work units. In doing this, it makes me consider what I need to do to complete
the job. I'll go through the job in my head - looking for areas to consider
or the order in which the smaller tasks need to be done. Those who rush
[and you can see the result] they may have their car sooner, but will
probably not be satisfied with it for very long and will either sell it
or forget it. They might never enjoy their labor.
Prototyping
For things that have to be fabricated or considered to be fabricated,
I prototype. For example my air plenums. I made a model out of poster
board first. I've prototyped my radiators by building several wood frames
and fitting them around the rear wheel area. The result are the radiators
you see (on my car) today. I'll also build small mock-ups or frames for
things like the side markers. This way I get a good fit on my body. This
also acts as a tool to use to fill around the side marker recess for a
final look and fit.
Keep a Design Notebook
I have about a half dozen Steno Notepads in which I'll design or sketch-out
how I want a system to function or an object to look like. These design
items are not necessarily to be made at this moment, but in some future
date. I'll periodically think about when and how I'll make something and
review the design in the notebook. I may change the design and now I have
a record of the evolution of some object I made. The design notebook also
contains vital information and measurements needed to make "things".
For example, I'm starting to work on my rear wing flap. I plan on making
it functional - move up and down electrically. My notebook contains a
drawing and the measurements of the flap (as it currently is) and of the
wing recess. I make notes on what I must do to make this all work. The
notebook also documents the calculations I make and part numbers of things
I plan to order. For example, when I laid-out my remote oil filters, I
sketched all the lines and fittings along with with their Earls or Aeroquip
part numbers so I know what I need to order. It also keeps a record of
such parts so that, if I needed to replace a component, I can go back
to the notebook and reorder it. |
| Things
to think about before you start your project
- by Brian
Weir
Unless you have tons of experience with welding,
fabricating, and bodywork etc. I would strongly suggest that you have
the manufacturer do as much of the prep work as possible, including and
especially the chassis welding.
This is probably the most crucial part of the whole
process, since how well or how poorly the welding is done will mean the
difference between a car that handles flawlessly, and one that is ruined
and be practically unusable due to errors and mistakes made in the welding
process. If nothing else, have the factory do as much chassis and body
work for you.
If you want to keep the costs down, keep your transverse
V-8 layout. If cost is not as important a factor as authenticity, go with
the longitudinal layout by ordering the mid-engine cage. Don't forget
to order the bump-steer kit which modifies the Fiero's toe-in/toe-out
geometry, or the car will be dangerously squirrelly under acceleration.
Be prepared to pay dearly for Porsche transaxles.
If you pay $2500 for one, consider yourself extremely fortunate. The ballpark
figure is closer to between $3500 and $5000 and up for later models. Talk
to Andy in the forum.
He is a much more knowledgeable source for the technical details of the
build up.
One more tip: Buy the genuine Lamborghini lights.
The replica units that come with the kits typically don't have an UV coating
on the lenses and are guaranteed to turn yellow in less than six months.
The look is not pretty. Be prepared to pay a few hundred bucks per pair
for the real McCoys. The wheels are going to run you at least $2000. |
| Saving
Money - By Endre
(Andy) Bujtas
Since we all would like to cut costs here and there,
here is some advice on how to reduce the price of items that has worked
for me.
1. If you wish to purchase an item that has several
options that could be added, such as a Porsche transaxle, ask the builder
to quote you a 'package price'. This way you can save some money, otherwise
they will add the object prices together and you be charged more.
2. If the company allows payment by credit card,
make a deal whereby you will pay them in cash or cashiers check, but ask
them to remove about 3% off the cost. This way, you save 3% and the builder
makes about 3% on the deal since credit card companies charge about 6%
for the use. |
| Steel
Supplier - By Rick
Page
I don't know who you use for steel, but I've been
using Metal Supermarkets
for my build steel. They are a national franchise operation so you might
have one by you and they will deliver. Their prices are 1/2 to 1/3 the
price at Home Depot or Lowes as well. |
| Fabricating
Tips - By Endre
(Andy) Bujtas
Here are a couple of fabrication tips and ideas.
Studs:
If you plan on making brackets that will have studs,
the easiest and fastest way to make good studs is:
1. Use a flathead bolt as the stud
2. Drill hole in the plate or bracket.
3. Countersink the hole
4. Place the flathead bolt and secure with nut and washer. This will hold
the bolt firmly in place and perpendicular.
5. Weld in bolt at the flathead end.
6. Grind and sand weld flush with bracket.
Perfect studs every time.
Slots:
If you need to make slotted holes, you can do this
using only your drill press. However, you may need a 2-axis machinist's
cross vice. JC Whitney sells them for $35-60, depending on the range of
travel. You should be using a decent drill press with at least, a 1/2
inch chuck.
1. Drill 2 holes that represent the 2 ends of the
slot.
2. Mount a high-speed cutter from Dremel.
3. Support your work in the vice with a block of wood.
4. Crank your drill press table so that the cutter enters 1 of the holes
and will completely cut through the work.
5. Use Tap Magic cutting oil and slowly cut through the work to the other
hole.
Dremel makes 2 sizes of these cutters and I've
cut slots into 1/8 and 3/16 inch stock with no difficulties. However,
to avoid breaking the cutter, insert the cutter all the way into the chuck
- with only a slight gap. The cutter shank is only about 1/8 inch in diameter.
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| Working
with Kit Car Manufactures - by Fletch (a little editorial,
something to think about)
A little editorial, something
to think about…
Oh sure there are a lot of
nice reputable car builders out there but... the big problem of the whole
kit car industry is that it is circled around the idea of making a copy
of something that isn’t ours... which makes us all thieves.
Let face it, we are all part
of the rip-off plan by supporting the manufactures to build kits. As with
drugs, we may not be the guy’s growing and selling the drugs…
we are the guys buying and using the supplies - which of these three evils
is worse.
There is still a part of this
whole kit car business that is not right… don’t get me wrong.
I consider myself to be a very honest guy, but I guess even my morels
are not quite pure. I want my copy of the car to be exact and correct
which means stealing a manufactures design – for my personal pleasure,
but not at the expense of ripping people off. I guess that is where my
moral lie, take the manufactures ideas.
We are all looking for the
best "copy" of a real car… and we have to except that
we are working with guys that are “rip-off artiest”, some
of them are nice and honest thieves. Honest or not they are all coping
someone else's hard engineering work for there own profits... and I am
just as bad, I am the guy buying it (and I also have a web site to show
you where and how build and buy it)! How messed up is that?
I would relate it to coping
music CD’s, sure I have copied music CD’s (isn’t that
why they sold me my computer – to boot leg and make my own CD’s).
However, this is where I feel it is wrong, if after I made a copy of a
Music CD… I then went down to the flea market and started selling
the CD (as new or used). Again, it falls into the category of Fletch’s
morels “don’t steal at the cost of ripping off people”…
does that make sense?
As a mechanical engineer, I
know what it takes to create a binder full of drawing, and that is what
Ken has done. Reverse engineering takes time, and that is that I am willing
to pay Ken for and that is what he is selling. Ken is not taking the manufactures
drawings and putting his name on them, he has spent the money and time
to create something that no one else has.
It all still revolves around
copying and stealing… but at whose cost?
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I am very new to this entire replica thing, but from what I have been
reading, are there any reputable manufacturers out there who deliver what
they promise?
It's kinda like this . You see this great looking girl so you go out
with her. So you find out that she is alot better looking person than
she is to be around and she treats you like s***. You still go out with
her becase she looks so good .In return she makes you look even better
to be seen with her,so you put up with her.It's the same with the cars
they look so good, you can't aford the real thing. So you put up with
the s*** to get the car in the end it's the same thing as the girl thing.
Kenny - http://www.kitcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001391.html |
Please feel free to write me with any
Tips, Tricks or Advice... we can all learn from one another. Fletch |
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