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| Chassis - Transmission - 915 Porsche |
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I received this from Gary Kerr, it is a rebuilt 915 Transaxle w/ flywheel, clutch pressure plate & adapter plate for the Chevy SB V8. The final drive was swapped @ T & D Porsche and everything dialed in. |
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The 915 is a very good trans for a Small-Block Chevy (SBC) power plant. The trans is good to around 500 HP. Therefore, it can be used for most SBC applications in a Diablo project. It is a 5-speed with a standard H-pattern - first gear at the top left and reverse at the lower right. This was a change to the original Type 901 transaxle (early 911 and 914) that had first gear at the lower left - top left being reverse. As such, it will be familiar to most people - especially when you consider that most of the Diablo projects do not display the shift pattern anywhere. If you plan on using this trans in the right-side-up position, you'll need to flip the ring gear inside. Otherwise, you'll have 5 reverse speeds and 1 forward speed. Else you could flip the entire trans upside-down. But I wouldn't recommend it since there may be a problem with oiling the gears if upside-down. The oil system (splash type) was designed to operate with the trans right-side-up. If you plan on mating this trans with a high-performance SBC, then I recommend changing-out the ring and pinion with a set of "tall" gears, the reason to change to the "tall" gears is because you can't change first gear.. The stock gearing is about 3.88:1. This, in itself, is not an issue, but because the stock input shaft has first gear machined (not changeable) onto it, the engine may hit red line at about 30 MPH with this first gear/final drive combination. It may launch you, but you'll have to shift into second as soon as you let go of the clutch in first. I got my 3.10:1 gears from Rennagade and they installed it.
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Accessories:
All this, the trans, the work, the parts cost me around $7000. You can reduce this figure by not including the limited-slip diff, getting your own slave cylinder and making your own brackets. But you are still talking about a unit in the $5000-6000 range. You can save even more money if you can get a hold of a good 915 unit from junk yard cheap. Then sending it out for work, or doing the work yourself. Rebuilding a manual trans is not too difficult. Some Assembly Required: You'll need to modify the TOB arm to accept the hydraulic slave cylinder. The original Porsche unit, when used in a 911, used a cable to operate the TOB. The Porsche TOB arm was designed for cable operation. You won't be able to make it operate like this. Remember, the Fiero clutch system is hydraulic. See Rick Page's site for how he modified his. Or you can have one made up by Rennegade, Kennedy or Transaxle Engineering. You'll have to assemble the TOB onto the pressure plate. When you get
the TOB it comes unassembled. And there are NO instructions on how to
put it together. I have a drawing that shows how this gets assebled. It
is a pain in the butt to assemble. Shifter: Running Gear: I replaced the stock 915 output hubs with 930 hubs. This allows the 930 CVs to directly bolt to the trans side. This requires that the stock 915 hub have the same number of splines as the 930 hubs. Later model 915s do have the same spline pattern so that swapping the hubs is a snap. The 930 hubs are much larger (about 4 inches in diameter) than the 915 hubs and use 10 mm bolts vs 8 mm. I got my 930 CVs and trans hubs from Transaxle Engineering. The axles or half-shafts must be custom made to fit your application. They must be of proper length to allow axle "plunge" as the wheels go up and down. And they must be machined (splined) to fit into 930 CV joints. Axles are typically made from either Chromalloy or 300M. For standard applications (300 HP or so), the Chromalloy axles are good enough. However, for higher output engines, I recommend going with the 300M (Indy car) axles. They are much more expensive, but you'll not have to worry about breaking them. I got my 300M axles from Transaxle Engineering. The total cost of the running gear will cost an additonal $1000. So my entire running gear cost me around $9000. But not all at once. For example, I didn't get my shifter unitl I needed it - around a year later. And it took almost 2.5 years before I had my axles made. But you really can't do anything, or build anything, without the engine/trans unit in you hands. The three sources for parts that I know (for builders of cars using a
SBC and a Porsche trans) are: Transaxle Engineering Andy |
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| Download this Excel spreadsheet to do gear calculations - Andy's Transmission Chart | |||||||||
The whole purpose of his company is mounting these transaxles on small block chevys and he knew that was what I was doing. Once again it cost extra, even though I carefully sent an Excel grid of all that would be needed and the price we agreed prior to sending a check. Scott tells me with all his customers, he can't keep everything straight that they might need. But as a consumer, I may not be the expert and know all that is needed or at least not included in a package. My rant is over, just beware if you are a new builder. Scott was very pleasant to work with, and he is the new owner of Renegade. So I guess some slack is warranted. I'm sure the quality of his product is excellent. I talked to Steve about the body and it's alignment measurements. He called me right back and has been true to his word about phone help. He told me the back was set to high on the 'T's and it should only have about 1/2" clearance from the main ducts in the rear. I set them down and everything started to come in close enough that I feel I should be able to tweak it and get it workable. Kurt Mylar also talked to me and made me feel good about the fitment and how much adjustment is possible. He suggested I don't start setting the body until I have the wheels on and are able to make sure the wheel well align properly. So I have backed off on the body, and went back to the Renegade Hybrids transaxle. The transaxle was mounted temporarily on the engine to check fitment. I decided to go ahead and install the clutch and make it mountable. On the subject of the transaxle, I wanted to make sure that I didn't unfairly give the impression Renegade was unduly expensive. In talking to other transaxle 'converters' my price from Scott was on the low end of the cost scale for these transaxles. Also, his turn time of only a couple weeks was very good compared to others that were more in the 4-6 weeks range and he did give me the adapter plate at his cost. He also shipped it at no charge after the omission of it on my original estimate. I will always attempt to make sure what I put on these pages is as accurate as possible. Now let's look at how this baby goes together. I was really grateful for Andy's detailed pics of his transaxle, this pilot bearing could go in two ways.
Flywheel is bolted securely in place. This is a late model SBC externally balanced flywheel. When working with the clutch assembly you need to be sure your hands are clean and just before assembly, wipe the pressure plate and flywheel with acetone or a good non residue solvent. Oil of any kind on these surfaces will cause serious problems.
The clutch disk is aligned on the flywheel then the pressure plate is bolted on, the TOB must already be on the pressure plate. This configuration of 'pull to release' is found inhigh performance clutches. Andy also sent me detailed drawings of the TOB assembly, which was greatly appreciated. It was not intuitively obvious to a casual observer.
Well it's back together and ready. The ring gear and pressure plate clearance is really tight, but I'm sure it's OK. |
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Here are some shots of the 915 Tranny. The best of the 915 tranny is the 75 and newer as it has a stronger ring gear. I got the rebuild parts from Motor Meister. Total cost is $1000 It is a fairly simple rebuild. Due to the need for special tools you
need to have a shop adjust a flipped differential and adjust shifter linkages. |
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| I did all the work to have the 915 rebuilt and ready to go. Here
is the work that had to be done on it. Once a Porsche tranny is rebuilt, adjusting the shifter rods can make an improvement in shifting. Also - and this applies to all the manual Porsche Audi transmissions, flip the detents over so that there is a new surface against the shifter rod. This can be done after the tranny is back together so long as you shift into neutral first. Tip, if the rear housing does not come off easily and comes out about
.25, it is the idler gear holding it, you need to tap it with a mallet
and a drift while pulling on the housing. It will come off easily. Do
not pry the housing, it will damage the gasket surface. |
| Download this Excel spreadsheet to do gear calculations - Gear Calculator |
| Links: |
| Motor Meister |
| Patrick Motorsports |
| Transaxle Engineering |
| Kennedy Engineering |
| Summit Racing |
| The HTD Eliminator Fiero - V8 Installation Kit |
| Rennsport Systems - Description of Various Porsche Transmissions with outlines on weaknesses and use suitability. |
| Rennsport Systems - Upgrades and modifications available to each transmission listing recommended torque and HP ratings |
| Hewland Engineering - Motorsport Transmissions |
| Power Haus - Porsche 911-930 Catalog |
| Windrush - Porsche Racing Transmissions |
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